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“That’s because you are not God. ”
No, I’m not God. And clearly, neither is your book god.
“HE can teach EVERYONE who reads the story something very important that you will never understand.”
I understand just fine. The story demonstrates that biblegod is easily manipulated by his arch enemy who simply played to his vanity and ego.
“You call it torture because you think God ought to be providing everyone a wonderful, painless existence.”
Not at all – I call it torture because it was.
That’s because you are not God. God allows Satan to do that so that HE can teach EVERYONE who reads the story something very important that you will never understand. You see everyone eventually dies. Since God is the creator of life, HE can decide to take YOUR life whenever HE wants to do it, or allow it to be taken by someone else. You call it torture because you think God ought to be providing everyone a wonderful, painless existence. You could not be more wrong.
Yeah, I didn’t like how it turned out at all. Trying to get him back on the show.
“The difference between CommonSenseJoe and Yahwe is that CommonSenseJoe neither takes pleasure in — or facilitates — the torture and killing of people.”
I disagree. As a promoter (both publicly and very likely financially) of biblegod, he verifiably helps facilitate any torture and killing done in his book god’s name.
If it wasn’t for moderate “I just like the good parts” believers, the fundies who take the myths seriously would dwindle and go extinct. Just like any god cult religion.
John, I really like you. I like hearing you on The Stephanie Miller show but you completely screwed the pooch with The Amazing Atheist spot. You people were completely dismissive of his(I thought) very relevant points about how the electoral college is, in fact, disenfranchising A LOT of people. It kind of sounded like you guys were a bit taken aback by the language he used and it caused all of you to completely miss the point.
You all kinda looked like idiots. You might want to check that.
(CONT) Biblegod is all about pain, torture and suffering – and selling it as love.
From ordering Abraham to murder his son ‘as a test’, to the concept of ‘you’ll be thrown in the fire if you don’t believe this god myth is true – and never consider any of the millions of other god myths, or any other possibility at all!’
If a book god…who says he can do anything…decides to brutally torture himself and/or his son to death … he’s just a sick fuck – he’s gets off on torture.
“Again, you have missed the entire point.”
No, you’ve avoided the point. Specifically the point I made that biblegod willingly allowed Job to be tortured (and his family and slaves murdered).
“The pain of child-birth is more a reminder than a punishment.”
What intellectual dishonesty. Justifying the willful administration of torture as ‘it’s just a reminder’. I can remind people without causing sever pain…but then again, I despise torture. Biblegod loves torture.
(CONT)
Again, you have missed the entire point. Everything we do has consequences. It is because of Adam and Eve’s sin that we ALL die, physically, spiritually, socially, and eternally. The pain of child-birth is more a reminder than a punishment. It would be through a woman giving birth that the savior would come. You keep thinking there Butch…..
” JOSHUA KICK REPUBLICAN ASS OH PLEASE.”
That’s as effective as asking Thor to do it, or Spiderman.
(CONT) I’ll give one more example : The whole ‘curse of Eve’ thing…which, according to bible mythology, women now suffer biblegod’s curse of ‘adding severe pain in childbirth’.
Not only is this myth unjust (punishing all women with severe pain for the act of one woman), it’s sadistic.
It’d be like me saying ‘because your great grandfather did something I didn’t like, every time you have a birthday, I’ll have you kicked in the balls.’
Clearly, I’m just making an excuse to cause you pain.
Well for starters, according to the Job myth, biblegod allows his arch enemy to kill Job’s whole family and all his servants (mental torture of Job), then allows Job to be stricken with pain and disease (physical torture of Job) — all to prove a point to his enemy.
I’d never let anyone torture someone I love like that – especially for such a lame excuse as ‘see he still loves me after I let you torture him like that’.
But then again, I’m not a psychopathic myth god.
I am talking about the God of the Bible.
Man, you are wrong abut so many things. First, less than one percent of abortions are done to preserve the mother’s life or the result of rape/incest. Second, a miscarriage or stillbirth is NOT an abortion. Abortion is the intentional killing of another human for NO reason other than the mere convenience of a woman. There is no balancing of rights involved. That is like saying let’s balance the rights of gay people by killing all of them. Then we do not have to deal with them or their issues.
No mention of “hell” here. Death was the punishment, not Dante’s mightmare. That afterlife is described by Luke as a place where the rich man suffered because he couldn’t get himself a cup of water. Its relative. Lazarus was in paradise by constrast to his earthly life.
The 50 million were not killed for the mere convenience of a woman; but after consideration for the health of the woman, the welfare of others, because of illness, due to the fetus’ problems, very like before nature would through the normal but unpredicatable process of miscarriage and stillbirth that will take about 30%. It is the predicament of balancing the rights and needs of two human beings.
u republicans should stop talking and using god to get ur votes. Don’t u guys still don’t get it. religions are man made… ur media is fake ,ur speeches are fake , ur campaigns are fake, and the best off all your wars are fake!!!! stop destroying our planet and the life of our children. you all should be ashamed talking about god if the true light we have is the light and love we all have deep inside. Learn a bit more about human history and the real kosmos that connects us all!!
“God takes no pleasure in torturing anyone. ”
Which God are you talking about?
HIS Sexy Liberal Show? It is Stephanie Miller’s Sexy Liberal Show and he is part of it.
“For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.” These are people who have already rejected God and embraced wickedness. Once you reject Jesus Christ, that does not mean that God cannot use you to convince others.
Why do you consider Hell to be a torture chamber?
Another angle of approach is this:
Do you know anyone who has constructed and and operates a torture chamber, but does not intend to use it? Yep, I’m referring to hell.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12:
“God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned.”
Sounds like god manipulating in order to damn people to hell.
I doubt the MISUSE of the Bible has caused over 50 million deaths which is how many unborn children killed for the mere convenience of a woman. Those are the true innocents being slaughtered.
You forget that you are talking about GOD, not a human being. Tell me, can you bring a person to life? Since God is in control of universe, you could say HE has caused or allowed every death since Adam and Eve. When you are the creator of ALL life, you get the complete say over death as well. You want to judge God’s actions by your human prospective. You best be worried about God judging YOUR actions by HIS holy nature.
You don’t have the faintest idea what you are talking about. God takes no pleasure in torturing anyone. God never tells us to mock those who are condemned.